Just to let you know..blabla, blabla, and no way to see them back..Lol, it seems a sequel of the movies ” Die Hard.”..
Unreliable ‘payment system’ Perfect Money. Dragonara – an unreliable service vendor.
Giving a splendid investment opportunity, we staked on a rapidly developing and convenient payment system Perfect Money. We chose this particular payment system for payments to our clients due to multiple factors. Among them:
- Multilanguage interface and clients support;
- work with offshore companies;
- 24/7 available web-site of the payment system;
- no negative experience of other companies using PM for payments to their clients.
We started to accumulate a stabilization fund to be secured against any situations of stress. This stabilization fund was placed on a Perfect Money account. This was considered before the most safe location for stabilization fund as the money was taken care – as we considered before – by financial experts.
As the stabilization fund has been accumulating and the work went well, Perfect Money was happy with everything. When we started the reform to improve the quality of our services and we required significant amounts from our stabilization fund, we started to withdraw some part of our funds at Perfect Money to our corporate bank account. Then Perfect Money stated that our business is unfair and we don’t pay money to our investors. However, all of you know that we started a reform and all of you know that any reform requires money.
Perfect Money locked our accounts and notified that all money will be distributed among investors. We have no idea of basis on which they decided to distribute money. And we absolutely don’t understand how a payment system may behave so arbitrary. This is nothing else but an arbitrariness, as there is neither court decision, nor negotiations with our investors, nor anything else.
Obviously, that Perfect Money is a non-liquid company due to some reasons, like:
- internal problems of Perfect Money resulting in excessive expenses,
- locking of Perfect Money accounts by banks, with which this payment system cooperates;
and so on.
Perfect Money can’t announce these problems in public as they will directly show their non-liquidity. That’s why they chose to lock the some accounts in order to recover their liquidity. This is a very dangerous trend.
Recently Dragonara locked our server and made a redirect to a page saying that we don’t fulfill our liabilities, and that we allegedly withdraw the money from GDP and PM accounts to our bank account.
There are two regular questions:
1) How PM can know what we do with our GDP account?
2) If this is our stabilization fund, we have a right to withdraw money to our bank account, don’t we?
PM wrote bullshit just to put up a smoke screen. You may ask them these two questions if you want.
The amount of stabilization fund at Perfect Money will definitely suffice to return all initially invested money and profit to all investors, who made their deposits via PM. However, the Perfect Money is likely to return you initially invested money only, as they didn’t declare their intention to get the information from us regarding the profit of every investor.
We expect, that Perfect money, a payment company, which is so honest and careful to the clients, will return the money to everybody with no exceptions. In this regard we reset all accounts in our system that were replenished via Perfect Money. This doesn’t refer to accounts replenished via GDP(!!!)
That’s why ask all your questions, relating to return of your money, to the payment system Perfect Money. If they undertook an obligation to distribute all money among our investors, let them do that.
Perfect Money may assure you that the accounts of SportArbs were always empty. But just think a bit: Firstly, Perfect Money control all accounts and may give you ANY logs, amounts, batches, etc. Secondly, what is the reason for Perfect Money to start this conflict? What for they locked our server and wrote that we are a dishonest company? What for they launched a mass mail demonizing our company? Nothing is done for no special reason. They wanted to get our stabilization fund and if we don’t push on them together they will appropriate the money of your and our stabilization fund.
If our web-site works unstable sometimes, that means that Dragonara and Perfect Money are scared by the truth and initiated a DDOS-attack against our web-site, so that less people knew the truth of the current unpleasant situation. That’s why we ask all of you personally, even if you made a deposit via GDP, to publish this article at forums, blogs and other public places. Please, don’t forget that the interests of our company are violated. And the interests of our company are 100% your interests too.
Recommendations:
1) To investors who made deposits via Perfect Money:
You should contact Perfect Money and to learn how can you withdraw your initial deposit.
2) All people with positive balance at Perfect Money:
You should withdraw your money from Perfect Money and to terminate your work with this payment system once for all.
3) To web-site owners:
Dragonara is an unreliable service vendor. You shouldn’t use their services if you don’t want to find your website suddenly locked with a bullshit at your domain placed instead.
4) To e-currency exchangers:
We recommend to terminate your cooperation with this ‘payment system’ Perfect Money, as there’s a big risk that some time your reserve funds will be suddenly distributed among your clients on an unknown basis and for unknown reasons.
Hi buddies !
I?ve been asked on my shoutbox an opinion about these nice quarrels: http://www.hyipnews.com/news/17375/WHO-IS-SCAMMING-WHOM-MNO-OR-HYIPCOM/
Lol, the last thing that really interests me are such sad behaviours.
Very simply: MNO is the #1 in this industry. As many others here I often read him too, but I think he’s not very selective in what he publishes. He gets paid very well for every review and interview ( congrats ! ) and for advertising banners. Nothing wrong with this, but to accept every kind of clear trash isn’t top fair finally.
Usually when a program goes there is looking for a rocket launch ( very risky = short life ), or, if it’s already around for some time yet, is then looking for the last boost before closing the shop. All admins know he has thousands of readers and thus what a powerful marketing machine he is.
I was asked only once for a paid review, but sincerely they looked to me so clearly to be going to scam in few days that I kindly refused. I only accepted once a paid ads without expressing any opinion about them. Actually I thought they could last for about one month, as they really did.
When you write a review you have to fully believe to what you write.
That means to be aware that a program can be a huge risk, nothing more than a risky bet. Ok, we are all gamblers here.
But to support with unsincere words a program just because you’ve been paid for it, no, that’s not for me.
About hyip.com I always had doubts about them and the honesty of their ratings. Too many times I’ve seen strange statuses there. That’s how things go with the biggest and most powerful monitors..
However I wish all the best to everyone, no problem.
Read everything, listen to everyone, but always decide with your own head ! NEVER leave this power to whatever monitor or blog !
Hi pals !
Sorry again for being such few times here lately, but as you know I’m very involved with sport bets right now, we are into the low season and I don’t see nothing exciting in the hyips’ horizon. Maybe autumn will bring some more new good programs. What I founfd looking good ( AMF1989 ) has been already added.
Oh, do you remember Sportarbs ? I bet many of you do..
Lol, some traces of life are still moving behind the backgrounds..
I have been recently contacted by their administration that asked me if I wanted to become their new local representative. And being paid for that too ! Gosh, I kindly let them notice that I could never accept such a role fromr a program that is no more paying, and more has currently the site offline, or better with that annoying
This website is temporarily unavailable as we are currently updating the website software.
Please try again in a couple of hours.
Well, they should write “in a couple of days or weeks !”.
Anyway this “little” detail doesn’t seem to interest them at all. They say thet will start again soon and blabla..
We all believe only to payments, but draw your own conclusions about this news. What the hell of a meaning can have to look for a representative ? If they are definitely scammers why not simply disappear ?
No idea. And no payments since early spring sadly..
Not showing that much, a pdf that everyone can aesily create in few minutes, but that’s it..
I still think that there’s a high probability that they are managed by the same admin of Verifield, not sure of course.
Hard to say what it could mean if true, in a lifetime prediction..These 2 summer months will tell soon a first response if it can have a long run yet.
Hi guys !
The words of the welcome Marie in my shout-box give me the opportunity to share some more thoughts about AMF1989.
Lol, obviously we can’t be sure that all this business is real and that most of all we will ever get paid as per program terms.
As I also wrote in my review if we’re are looking for 100% guarantees the online arena is basically the wrong place. Actually also all high-ROI investments are not 100% guarantee, even if you deal with the most trusted and licensed broker operating on the NYSE.
The recent history is full of terrific financial cracks. So if you need that kind of guarantee keep your money safe in your bank and that’s it. No risk (well, almost..many american banks also played very bad tricks..) and no gain too.
Ritish has provided video, documents, phone numbers..Does this represent a guarantee ? Of course not !
Bernie Madoff was as real as possible, nevertheless scammed private investors and world banks for trillions of $$$..
However I feel, and being my feeling based on what I saw and the conlusion I’ve drawn about it I could be obvioulsy wrong, that Ritish is really managing a real business that has a great potential and can thus afford to pay the promised returns.
Said this the choice is yours guys. Who doesn’t feel at ease so simple, stay away !
Always keep in mind that the real golden rule of any risky investment is “just invest the money that you can easily afford to lose with a smile”. If the idea of losing your money makes you too nervous, well, you went too far challenging your emotions, and that’s not wise.
Focus the amount of money that you’re peacefully willing to risk with a program, define the “stake” that you are going to place on every program according to the risk/reward ratio offered, be disciplined, get rid of fear and greed, and it’s not different than betting with bookmakers finally.
And maybe you can be a great winner !
Something I bitterly learned dealing with hyips is that they aren’t “real”, but just pure games, that can be very profitable the same if played smartly and with the necessary luck, but with no real and legitimate business behind. If you look for that you’re basically in the wrong place GNI, NanoMoney and Genius have shown to be like that, just to mention 3 of the past most popular and successful programs.
But lately I happened to meet a new program that, well, at least COULD be real !
Ok, I will never put my hand in the fire about this, but it really looks different from the well known hyips.
I’m talking about AMF1989.com
The first amazing thing is that the admin Ritish Dorai provided a video showing his real face and his business. Lol, have you ever seen something like this with a hyip ? Honestly no, except for the promotional video of the no more paying Sportarbs, produced in a studio with paid actors. Not really the same thing..
Just look here: http://www.youtube.com/v/29eR3LSwZUY&hl
The second amazing thing is that the site was registered back in 2006, and I could find traces of real activity back in 2007 actually. So if it’s a game congrats ! It’s the longest and paying one I’ve ever seen !
Indeed Ritish already ran a couple of programs years ago, and guess what ?, all members got paid and refunded when the programs closed, nobody ever lost a dime with him. Sounds good, doesn’t it ?
More he learnt from past experiences, and currently, as you can see from the video, AMF1989 is mostly dealing with aquaculture. They have several micro-farms and would like to buy bigger ones and own them.
You may now wonder why, if the business is located in Malaysia, the society is registered in Vanuatu. Well, the laws of Malaysia are quite strict about investments ( translation = many taxes..), so to be registrated in Vanuatu facilitates their ideas of a cooperative which can pool international funds and invest them. There are 26 shareholders of AMF1989 from all over the world.
Ritish has provided me detailed info and documents about his activity. I can’t publish them, but lol, again it looks like a real business ! I know he has also been contacted on his private cellphone. Again, ever seen something like this with a hyip ?
Something more about the “reality” of his business also comes from Alertpay. AMF1989 has upgraded its status and is now verified to offer “Financial services and products/Investments”. And you all know how strict Alertpay is with its verifications..
Ok, let’s give a look to the plan. Basically there’s only one, offering a variable monthly return from 5% to 25%. Straight and simple. Forget what is still left in the script about fixed and variable accounts. Now there’s only one plan as said.
You may fund your account with Liberty Reserve, Alertpay and Bank Wire ( you need to verify yourself first should you wish to use this option though ).
StrictPay and PerfectMoney still appears in the script but aren’t accepted right now.
The minimum spend is $10, while there’s no maximum. Obviously contact Ritish first should you ever think to deposit a big amount !
The deposited amount floats for 15 days before it is available in the trading account. Then it starts earning for the 30 day period. This is also due to the obvious fact that it takes time to move money from the e-currencies to the real business. For example the money in Alertpay is locked for 14 days, due to its financial verified status ( this is a rule of Alertpay ), before it’s released to the account balance and available for Ritish.
Interests will be credited every 30 days to your account balance, after the first 15 floating days. You may request a withdrawal when you have funds available in your account balance. Normally they pay out what ever is requested within 24-48 hours except weekends. It could also take something more for the same reason that it takes time to move real money back to an e-currency. A Ponzi has its e-currency account always nicely charged, a real business shouldn’t, being the money invested somewhere else. Do you agree ? Principal is also allowed to be withdrawn at any time and it takes 15 days to be processed.
So, what’s to say more ? Nothing is sure in life, but it looks like we’re facing something different this time.
The past checked history of Ritish proves his honesty, he’s showing all his cards in such an open way. Lol, you won’t get rich with few bucks, but it really looks to be here for a very long and safe run.
Hi everybody !
Sorry for not being too much here lately, but my program is always involving me so much.
Going back to the neverending search to make some profits on the net I found this opportunity: WebSiteTester.
As always I don’t know if it will work and pay or not, but as with all free opportunities I gave it a shot, who knows ?
The project is still in the pre-launch stage.
FINALLY… This is the business you have waited for so long:
It is completely free, you earn through EVERYBODY who registers after you, even if you do not sponsor people; you must not sell or buy anything. Guaranteed!
The faster you register, the more can be your potential income, even if you do nothing else than register for free…
How does it work? – It’s simple!
A market research company from the USA is searching for internet users all over the world, who get paid for testing websites and giving a short opinion. You also can earn up to 1,000 US$ per month working 1 to 10 hours weekly.
Even if the job as a website tester is not for you, you can earn two passive incomes month after month:
1. Team Provision for all the members that you have sponsored directly or indirectly.
2. Group Provision for all members which have registered in the system after your own registration!
So be fast, this is crucial, while you read these lines, new members register all over the world. There is absolutely no commitment involved with your registration and your data will NEVER be exposed to third parties!
By the way, did we mention that participation will ALWAYS be free of charge?
Give it a look and draw your conclusions.
If you wish you may join here.
Hi folks !
Ok, also ForexNetClub is dead, no doubt.
Paying such a high ROI my maximum prediction was of 6 months online. It lasted 4 and a half, the time for 2 complete cycles of 8 weeks for who joined it from the beginning.
Quite a predictable and so “bettable” hyip.
Who hasn’t been too greedy will be in good profit anyway.
Always waiting for the next “Big Thing” to come !
Hi everybody !
It looks like that also HighHyielClub reached its final days.
Let’s say it’s no more paying, so just one step before the scam.
Stay away from them. At least it lasted a decent time for who joined early, much better than many others.
Hi pals !
I’ve just decided to close for the moment my program to new investors.
It has got a great interest, thanks for that and the trust, but I realize I can’t follow alone too many people, updating all spreadhsheets daily, answering to many emails that ask about it and so on.
I just need to concentrate on the bets to make a good work, nothing else.
Honestly I realized the pressure involved in managing someone else money, a sacred responsibility for me. So I need to be as more focused as possible. Maybe the launch of the program and all the tasks involved have over-pressured me, and I feel I’m not giving my best.
All updates will be sent from now on only to current members.
Maybe later I will open again, but now I have to show myself and to you that I can do a good work first, and on a significant timeframe.
Thanks to all for the trust and stay tuned.
